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A real currency backed by gold and silver. At some point this will become the rage. It's only a matter of time as our govt goes further and further in to debt with our fiat currency. When will the FRN be worthless?

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Financing the Empire
By Mark Thornton
Posted on 11/9/2006
Subscribe at email services, tell others, or The adoption of the Federal Reserve central bank, the breaking of the last linkages with gold, and the further dollarization of the world banking system has only enhanced the economic arm of US imperialism, writes Mark Thornton. Nowadays, the US Treasury can issue bonds in astronomical amounts only to be absorbed seemingly harmlessly by the Fed and central banks around the world. For its part, the Fed pays for the bonds with a simple electronic bookkeeping entry in its accounts and no one is the wiser.'>Digg this story.

This talk was delivered on October 27, 2006, at "Imperialism: Enemy of Freedom," the Mises Institute Supporter's Summit. It is available in MP3 audio from Mises Media.

People poke fun at Austrian economists because we support the gold standard. They cannot understand why we would "cling" to this "relic" of history. They view it as going backward in history to a less advanced state of affairs and to something that is primitive and unscientific. They ask us: how would we control this gold standard? After all, isn't the gold standard unstable?

We answer: yes, the gold standard is unstable in the same sense that all markets are unstable, which is one reason why we support the gold standard ? because it automatically makes all the necessary adjustments to the changes that occur in the real world. In any case, gold is much more stable than paper money and that the gyrations in the gold market reflect the unstable dollar, not any inherent instability in the gold market.

A gold standard also helps prevent governments from starting useless spending programs, creating expensive bureaucracies, running budget deficits, and waging unnecessary wars. It can even help smooth out and even eliminate the business cycle. Economic science and history all point to the advantages of market-based money and the disadvantages of government-controlled systems.

At this point our critics are convinced. They are convinced that we are all crackpots and that we have lost touch with reality and that we have a screw lose. We have not even mentioned at this point that a true gold standard makes the financing of imperialism nearly impossible. Nor have we hinted that Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) is just the latest "operation" in US imperialism.

Even our supply-side friends think we are crazy for advocating a gold and silver coin standard that is completely market driven. They like gold too, but they wish that the central bank would target the price of gold at, say, $500 per ounce. Robert Mundell, a recent Nobel laureate in economics, also recommends a targeted gold exchange system.
"A true gold standard makes the financing of imperialism nearly impossible."

The problem with their suggestion is not gold, but the government control of money. It is really just a variation on all the other so-called "systems." It would not be stabilizing, as government central banks could still manipulate the money supply and interest rates.

Lags between policy changes and their ultimate impact on the gold market could create swings in the economy and cause chaos in credit markets. It also does not eliminate fractional reserve banking so that changes in the gold market would be amplified several times in both directions. We would still face the problems of inflation and business cycles. Ultimately we would also face the twin problems of the system going into default and the potential that governments would simply renege on their promises. The historical trail of broken promises, suspensions of convertibility, and changing targets is too long and crowded to take such as system seriously.

As Murray Rothbard has shown, it was precisely this gold exchange system that was the economic basis of American imperialism in the late 19th century. It was mainstream American economists who put forward the theory of "capitalistic imperialism" that helped justify the government overseas adventures to open up foreign markets for American business.

These economists argued that America had too much capital and that it was vital for the survival of "advanced capitalism" to forcibly open markets to American investment and goods. Economist Charles Conant wrote that "America must be prepared to use force if necessary." America, he argued, must not be held back by the abstract theories and extreme conclusions of our Founding Fathers and that "only with the firm hand of the responsible governing races ? can ? progress be conveyed to the tropical and undeveloped countries." (Rothbard,History of Money and Banking in the United States, pp. 210?212)

America ? a country born in the crucible of revolution against British Imperialism ? would now be transformed into an imperial power itself. Conant called for rewriting the Constitution to centralize power and for maintaining of a large standing army and navy to pacify both the domestic population and our foreign subjects.

Rothbard noted:

"The leap into political imperialism by the United States in the late 1890s was accompanied by economic imperialism, and one of the keys to economic imperialism was monetary imperialism. In brief, the developed Western countries by this time were on the gold standard, while most of the Third World nations were on the silver standard ? what the new imperialists set out to do was to pressure or coerce Third World countries to adopt, not a genuine gold coin standard, but a newly conceived 'gold-exchange' or dollar standard." (218?9)

The idea here was that foreign central banks would hold their reserves in dollars deposited in New York banks so that when our banks inflated, gold would not flow out of the country as is the case with a genuine gold standard. Hence the United States used political, economic, and military pressure to persuade our new possessions and other underdeveloped countries to join the dollar system.

By the time of the Panic of 1907 (which was used as a justification to create the Federal Reserve) the gold standard had been firmly shackled and had lost all the qualities that made it the foundation of capitalism, free trade, and prosperity.
"At this point our critics are convinced. They are convinced that we are all crackpots?."

The adoption of the Federal Reserve central bank, the breaking of the last linkages with gold, and the further dollarization of the world banking system has only enhanced the economic arm of US imperialism. Nowadays, the US Treasury can issue bonds in astronomical amounts only to be absorbed seemingly harmlessly by the Fed and central banks around the world. For its part, the Fed pays for the bonds with a simple electronic bookkeeping entry in its accounts and no one is the wiser.

I've taught college courses in Money and Banking where I would explain the details of Fed policy, the regulation of banking, and the money expansion process at great length. When I first started teaching the course, students would inevitably arrive at my office as final exams approach and claim that "this doesn't make sense," "I'm just not getting it," or "I must be missing something."

I then would explain that in order to understand this system you have to think of it as a scam. Something that is criminal. Something that normally would be against the law, but in this case the government is allowing itself to break the law against counterfeiting. I then would remind them about the categories of winners and losers from inflation where the government or government-related classes benefit and everyone else loses. This was clearly one of the most shocking revelations that they had ever experienced. I only wish that I had a scrapbook of photographs of their faces that I could pass around here today.

Only a market-based monetary system eliminates the possibility of inflation and business cycles and this system also prevents government from embarking on the path of imperialism. Market-based money would consist of gold and silver coins and money would be defined by the market as a certain weight of metal of a set level of purity. The supply of money could only be increased from new mining production or from diversions from other uses of the metal via the market mechanism.

Banking would be based on a 100% reserve requirement on all demand deposits. All demand deposits and banknotes would be redeemable on demand and all defaulters would be forced into immediate liquidation. Bank runs would check the behavior of errant banks, thus eliminating bank panics. Savings would be matched up with investment in a stable and harmonious way and business cycles, properly understood, would cease to exist.

Most importantly, market-based money in the form of a gold standard would force governments back towards the classical liberal society and prevent its antithesis ? imperialism. It is central banking and fiat money that finances imperialism and it is only a true gold standard that represents sound money. As Mises stressed:

"The meaning of the idea of sound money ? was devised as an instrument for the protection of civil liberties against despotic inroads on the part of governments. Ideologically it belongs in the same class with political constitutions and bills of rights." (Mises,The Theory of Money and Credit, p. 454)

The idea of government money is appealing to those of limited intellect and to those who believe in the glory of the state. The government can simply print money to solve all the problems of society, or to pay for anything required by the state. If a stingy legislature fails to pass the necessary taxes, politicians and bureaucrats can spend borrowed money that is effectively laundered by their central bankers. What they fail to recognize are both the economic problems of inflation and that such unshackled politicians spend for their own interests, including unnecessary wars and other imperial adventures.
"The idea of government money is appealing to those of limited intellect and to those who believe in the glory of the state."

In fact, while Austrians emphasize the importance of sound money and the problems of inflation, we hold this last impact of sound money in the highest regard because blocking imperialism and despotism is essential for the survival of liberalism. (Adam Smith and Edmund Burke said the same.) I would like to quote Schumpeter on this point, both for his wide-ranging authority on the subject and because he is considered one of the least doctrinaire in terms of policy among Austrian economics (and is labeled by some as a socialist):

"At present [circa early 1950s] we are taught to look upon such a policy [i.e., an automatic gold standard] as wholly erroneous ? as a sort of fetishism that is impervious to rational argument. We are also taught to discount all rational and all purely economic arguments that may actually be adduced in favor of it. But quite irrespective of these, there is one point about the gold standard that would redeem it from the charge of foolishness; even in the absence of any purely economic advantage?. An automatic gold currency is part and parcel of a laissez-faire and free-trade economy. It links every nation's money rates and price levels with the money rates and price levels of all the other nations that are 'on gold.' It is extremely sensitive to government expenditure and even to attitudes or policies that do not involve expenditures directly, for example, to foreign policy, to certain policies of taxation, and, in general to precisely all those policies that violate the principles of economic liberalism. This is the reason why gold is so unpopular now and also why it was so popular in the bourgeois era. It imposes restrictions upon governments or bureaucracies that are much more powerful than is parliamentary criticism. It is both the badge and the guarantee of bourgeois freedom ? of freedom not simply of the bourgeois interest, but of freedom in the bourgeois sense. From this standpoint a man may quite rationally fight for it, even if fully convinced of the validity of all that has ever been urged against it on economic grounds. From the standpoint of ?tatisme and planning, a man may not less rationally condemn it, even if fully convinced of all that has ever been urged for it on economic grounds." (Schumpeter, pp. 405?6, emphasis added)

In other words, even if fiat money was based on sound economic grounds we should still have a gold standard to protect our freedom, while the statist should still support fiat money even if they are convinced that it leads to economic ruin.
"If we could identify our impoverishment with imperialism we would rise up and overthrow our rulers, but central banks and fiat money blind us to our source of poverty.

Imperialism is inherently expensive, nonproductive, and unprofitable. Imperialism therefore cannot be justified with the idea that it helps the domestic population because only a tiny minority of elites benefit, but it impoverishes the rest of society. The beneficiaries include government contractors, ego-crazed politicians, and mercantilist business enterprises. (In the case of Operation Iraqi Liberation, it is oil interests.)

If we could identify our impoverishment with imperialism we would rise up and overthrow our rulers, but central banks and fiat money blind us to our source of poverty. Government bonds are issued to pay for imperial adventures and these bonds are then effectively laundered by central banks. Government obtains resources and our labor and the average person has little idea that they have been swindled.

The idea that imperialism can be justified because it helps our subjected people is ridiculous and the height of self-delusion. Subjects only put up with foreign rule and interference in the face of their significant military disadvantages and even then, some do fight to the death. All societies have their pluses and minuses and to think that your society is all pluses while theirs is all minuses is the height of self-conceit, especially when you are imposing your will with the point of a bayonet.

Imposing certain aspects of your system such as law, money, religion, politics, etc. on a different society is a recipe for disaster. First, it will not work. Second, it will have unintended consequences within the new mixed system. And third, it will create opposition to your society's values and institutions ? across the board ? and ignite reactionary movements against you, such as religious fundamentalism and terrorism. As we can now see, the results of British and American imperialism in the Middle East are in full bloom. Such problems can be avoided if we followed the ideas of Austrian economics, particularly Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard.
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Central banks make imperialism possible by financing imperialist adventures in such as a way as to cloak the true cost. Joseph Salerno has shown in his article in the Costs of War? "War and the Money Machine: Concealing the Costs of War beneath the Veil of Inflation" ? how and why the state uses inflation to pay for war.

The Fed can hide the cost of war, but ultimately it does not reduce the cost of war; it increases it by (1) encouraging more war, destruction and imperialism and by (2) imposing the cost of monetary manipulation that hurts the economy (e.g., the business cycle). The average citizen can only think that they have been slapped in the face by the invisible hand or run over by the invisible truck.

As Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) confirms, the US government has no plans to end its imperial rampage. OIL had bipartisan support and all the recent talk in Washington about withdrawals, timetables, and new strategies is just an election-season salve to make sure the anti-war movement does not fester out of control. It also confirms that imperialism is the enemy of freedom and the champion of death, destruction, and deception. Finally, it also confirms that the Fed is the compliant financier of imperialism and will continue to be.

The only way to stop this destructive juggernaut is to unmask imperialism as the enemy of freedom, peace, and prosperity. The people must understand it is inherently bad for us and for those the government chooses to control. We must unmask the dirty secret of imperialism that it is only the powerful few elites who benefit from imperialism. We must unmask the fact that they use the Federal Reserve to dupe the masses into supporting imperialism. The Fed must be stopped. Gold coins must return as our monetary standard. The ideas of the Austrian economists must prevail. The evil ideology of deception, death, and destruction that is imperialism must itself be destroyed by the force of good ideas.

Mark Thornton is Senior Fellow at the Ludwig von Mises Institute and Book Review Editor for the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics. He is the author of The Economics of Prohibition and co-author of Tariffs, Blockades, and Inflation: The Economics of the Civil War. Send him mail. Comment on the blog.

This talk was delivered on October 27, 2006, at "Imperialism: Enemy of Freedom," the Mises Institute Supporter's Summit. It is available in MP3 audio from Mises Media.

Bibliography

Denson, John V. 1999. The Costs of War: America's Pyrrhic Victories.

Mises, Ludwig von. The Theory of Money and Credit.

Rothbard, Murray N. History of Money and Banking in the United States.

Schumpeter, Joseph A. 1954. History of Economic Analysis. New York: Oxford University Press.


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The Liberty Dollar seems like a cool gift to give for the holidays. Think about it.


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In a related note, a tyrannical law:

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No state shall make anything other than gold and silver legal tender. And then Roosevelt came along. I like this guy in Montana, a legislator trying to bring back gold.

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Montana State Rep. Bob Wagner

A bill being considered in the Montana Legislature blasts the Federal Reserve's role in America's money policy and permits the state to conduct business in gold and silver instead of the Fed's legal tender notes.

Montana H.B. 639, sponsored by State Rep. Bob Wagner, R-Harrison, doesn't require the state or citizens to conduct business in gold or silver, but it does require the state to calculate certain transactions in both the current legal tender system and in an electronic gold currency. It further mandates that the state must accept payments in gold or silver for various fees and purchases.

While Wagner was unavailable for comment, the bill's language clearly alleges the nation's current financial system
, with its reliance on the private Federal Reserve system for money supply, is a danger to American freedom.

"The absence of gold and silver coin, whether in that form or in the form of an electronic gold currency, as media of exchange," the bill states, "abridges, infringes on and interferes with the sovereignty and independence of this state … and exposes this state and Montana citizens, inhabitants and businesses to chronic problems and potentially serious crises that may arise from the economic and political instability of the present domestic and international systems of coinage, currency, banking and credit."

Further, the bill states, relying only on the depreciating legal tender issued by the Fed subjects citizens to "losses in purchasing power" inflicted by the government, a dilemma the bill says amounts to the "incremental confiscation" of property by government in violation of the U.S. Constitution's protections for just compensation and due process.

The Fifth Amendment states, "No person shall be … deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

Critics of the current financial system argue that using Federal Reserve notes as legal tender, rather than gold- or silver-backed currency, means the value of Americans' money – and thus their "property" – is siphoned away by inflation, a process perpetuated by the government's reliance on legal tender. Gold and silver, critics say, don't lose their value on the whims of the Federal Reserve.

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, even favors abolishing the Fed's system of fiat currency to return to dollars backed by gold.

"Throughout its nearly 100-year history, the Federal Reserve has presided over the near-complete destruction of the United States dollar," the Texas Republican said. "Since 1913 the dollar has lost over 95 percent of its purchasing power, aided and abetted by the Federal Reserve's loose monetary policy.

"How long will we as a Congress stand idly by while hard-working Americans see their savings eaten away by inflation? Only big-spending politicians and politically favored bankers benefit from inflation," he said.

Wagner joins legislators in several other states encouraging their respective governments to reconsider accepting gold as a form of payment. Indiana's S.B. 453, Colorado's H.B. 09-1206, Missouri's H.B. 0561, Georgia's H.B. 430 and Maryland's H.J.R. 5 are among the gold currency bills introduced just this year in various legislatures.

Montana's H.B. 639 has been referred to the Legislature's State Administration Committee
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The other side: The following links address most of the specifics regarding silver- and gold-backed currency.
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/1...old_standa.html
http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archiv...ndard_crazy.php

Important and related ideas:
- Gold is a commodity whose value fluctuates, as all commodities do. If we fix the price of gold, that can only help trade with countries that also have fixed-price gold-backed currencies. What about the other countries?
- Simply changing back to the Gold Standard will not cause citizens to save more - people must decide for themselves to consume less and save more for their savings to go up. Savings does not come from the value of currency. Period.
- Expected nflation is already factored into interest rates. IRs aren't at all arbitrary; present and expected future values are calculated. For the most part, inflation in the US is predictable and we don't see hyperinflation or stagflation like many other countries have and sometimes still do.

Regarding the Liberty Dollar and why would they be selling it to a person at a "discount":

Wouldn't a prudent person want to keep the prescious metal and get rid of the fiat currency that it denounces if looming inflation is here or on its way?

In examining more of the website, I found that one must buy $250 worth of the coins to start, which they can later sell to others for more than their purchase price and pocket the difference. The company offers "Liberty Associates" a one-time $100 referral bonus for referring to the organization others that wish to buy additional Libery Dollars. This sounds somewhat similar to pyramid schemes that ask you to sign up and gives you bonuses for referring others - the catch being that you must buy a quantity up-front.

Why would an organization sell the very same prescious metals that they expect to appreciate in value for Federal Reserve Notes that they say are becoming less valueable?

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It is cold, so bitter cold, on this dark, winter day in 1942. But it is no different from any other day in this Nazi concentration camp. I stand shivering in my thin rags, still in disbelief that this nightmare is happening. I am just a young boy. I should be playing with friends; I should be going to school; I should be looking forward to a future, to growing up and marrying, and having a family of my own. But those dreams are for the living, and I am no longer one of them. Instead, I am almost dead, surviving from day to day, from hour to hour, ever since I was taken from my home and brought here with tens of thousands other Jews. Will I still be alive tomorrow? Will I be taken to the gas chamber tonight?
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Back and forth I walk next to the barbed wire fence, trying to keep my emaciated body warm. I am hungry, but I have been hungry for longer than I want to remember. I am always hungry. Edible food seems like a dream. Each day as more of us disappear, the happy past seems like a mere dream, and I sink deeper and deeper into despair. Suddenly, I notice a young girl walking past on the other side of the barbed wire. She stops and looks at me with sad eyes, eyes that seem to say that she understands, that she, too, cannot fathom why I am here. I want to look away, oddly ashamed for this stranger to see me like this, but I cannot tear my eyes from hers.
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Then she reaches into her pocket, and pulls out a red apple. A beautiful, shiny red apple. Oh, how long has it been since I have seen one! She looks cautiously to the left and to the right, and then with a smile of triumph, quickly throws the apple over the fence. I run to pick it up, holding it in my trembling, frozen fingers. In my world of death, this apple is an expression of life, of love. I glance up in time to see the girl disappearing into the distance.

The next day, I cannot help myself-I am drawn at the same time to that spot near the fence. Am I crazy for hoping she will come again? Of course. But in here, I cling to any tiny scrap of hope. She has given me hope and I must hold tightly to it.

And again, she comes. And again, she brings me an apple, flinging it over the fence with that same sweet smile.

This time I catch it, and hold it up for her to see. Her eyes twinkle. Does she pity me? Perhaps. I do not care, though. I am just so happy to gaze at her. And for the first time in so long, I feel my heart move with emotion.

For seven months, we meet like this. Sometimes we exchange a few words. Sometimes, just an apple. But she is feeding more than my belly, this angel from heaven. She is feeding my soul. And somehow, I know I am feeding hers as well.
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One day, I hear frightening news: we are being shipped to another camp. This could mean the end for me. And it definitely means the end for me and my friend. The next day when I greet her, my heart is breaking, and I can barely speak as I say what must be said: "Do not bring me an apple tomorrow," I tell her. "I am being sent to another camp. We will never see each other again." Turning before I lose all control, I run away from the fence. I cannot bear to look back. If I did, I know she would see me standing there, with tears streaming down my face.

Months pass and the nightmare continues. But the memory of this girl sustains me through the terror, the pain, the hopelessness. Over and over in my mind, I see her face, her kind eyes, I hear her gentle words, I taste those apples.

And then one day, just like that, the nightmare is over. The war has ended. Those of us who are still alive are freed. I have lost everything that was precious to me, including my family. But I still have the memory of this girl, a memory I carry in my heart and gives me the will to go on as I move to America to start a new life. Years pass. It is 1957. I am living in New York City. A friend convinces me to go on a blind date with a lady friend of his. Reluctantly, I agree. But she is nice, this woman named Roma. And like me, she is an immigrant, so we have at least that in common.
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"Where were you during the war?" Roma asks me gently, in that delicate way immigrants ask one another questions about those years.

"I was in a concentration camp in Germany," I reply.

Roma gets a far away look in her eyes, as if she is remembering something painful yet sweet.

"What is it?" I ask.

"I am just thinking about something from my past, Herman," Roma explains in a voice suddenly very soft. "You see, when I was a young girl, I lived near a concentration camp. There was a boy there, a prisoner, and for a long while, I used to visit him every day. I remember I used to bring him apples. I would throw the apple over the fence, and he would be so happy."

Roma sighs heavily and continues. "It is hard to describe how we felt about each other-after all, we were young, and we only exchanged a few words when we could-but I can tell you, there was much love there. I assume he was killed like so many others. But I cannot bear to think that, and so I try to remember him as he was for those months we were given together."
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With my heart pounding so loudly I think it wil1 explode, I look directly at Roma and ask, "And did that boy say to you one day, 'Do not bring me an apple tomorrow. I am being sent to another camp'?"

"Why, yes," Roma responds, her voice trembling.

"But, Herman, how on earth could you possibly know that?"

I take her hands in mine and answer, "Because I was that young boy, Roma."

For many moments, there is only silence. We cannot take our eyes from each other, and as the veils of time lift, we recognize the soul behind the eyes, the dear friend we once loved so much, whom we have never stopped loving, whom we have never stopped remembering.

Finally, I speak: "Look, Roma, I was separated from you once, and I don't ever want to be separated from you again. Now, I am free, and I want to be together with you forever. Dear, will you marry me?"


I see that same twinkle in her eye that I used to see as Roma says, "Yes, I will marry you," and we embrace, the embrace we longed to share for so many months, but barbed wire came between us. Now, nothing ever will again.

Almost forty years have passed since that day when I found my Roma again. Destiny brought us together the first time during the war to show me a promise of hope and now it had reunited us to fulfill that promise.

Valentine's Day, 1996. I bring Roma to the Oprah Winfrey Show to honor her on national television. I want to tell her in front of millions of people what I feel in my heart every day:

"Darling, you fed me in the concentration camp when I was hungry. And I am still hungry, for something I will never get enough of: I am only hungry for your love."

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Ivanoushka the Simpleton

In a kingdom far away from our country, there was a town over which ruled the Tsar Pea with his Tsaritza Carrot. He had many wise statesmen, wealthy princes, strong, powerful warriors, and also simple soldiers, a hundred thousand, less one man. In that town lived all kinds of people: honest, bearded merchants, keen and open-handed rascals, German tradesmen, lovely maidens, Russian drunkards; and in the suburbs all around, the peasants tilled the soil, sowed the wheat, ground the flour, traded in the markets, and spent the money in drink.
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In one of the suburbs there was a poor hut where an old man lived with his three sons, Thomas, Pakhom, and Ivan. The old man was not only clever, he was wise. He had happened once to have a chat with the devil. They talked together while the old man treated him to a tumbler of wine and got out of the devil many great secrets. Soon after this the peasant began to perform such marvelous acts that the neighbors called him a sorcerer, a magician, and even supposed that the devil was his kin.

Yes, it is true that the old man performed great marvels. Were you longing for love, go to him, bow to the old man, and he would give you some strange root, and the sweetheart would be yours. If there is a theft, again to him with the tale. The old man conjures over some water, takes an officer along straight to the thief, and your lost is found; only take care that the officer steals it not.world of warcraft gold,

Indeed the old man was very wise; but his children were not his equals. Two of them were almost as clever. They were married and had children, but Ivan, the youngest, was single. No one cared much for him because he was rather a fool, could not count one, two, three, and only drank, or ate, or slept, or lay around. Why care for such a person? Every one knows life for some is brighter than for others. But Ivan was good-hearted and quiet. Ask of him a belt, he will give a kaftan also; take his mittens, he certainly would want to have you take his cap with them. And that is why all liked Ivan, and usually called him Ivanoushka the Simpleton; though the name means fool, at the same time it carries the idea of a kind heart.

Our old man lived on with his sons until finally his hour came to die. He called his three sons and said to them:

"Dear children of mine, my dying hour is at hand and ye must fulfill my will. Every one of you come to my grave and spend one night with me; thou, Tom, the first night; thou, Pakhom, the second night; and thou, Ivanoushka the Simpleton, the third."

Two of the brothers, as clever people, promised their father to do according to his bidding, but the Simpleton did not even promise; he only scratched his head.
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The old man died and was buried. During the celebration the family and guests had plenty of pancakes to eat and plenty of whisky to wash them down. Break went on to say that.

Now you remember that on the first night Thomas was to go to the grave; but he was too lazy, or possibly afraid, so he said to the Simpleton:

"I must be up very early to-morrow morning; I have to thresh; go thou for me to our father's grave."

"All right," answered Ivanoushka the Simpleton. He took a slice of black rye bread, went to the grave, stretched himself out, and soon began to snore.

The church clock struck midnight; the wind roared, the owl cried in the trees, the grave opened and the old man came out and asked:

"Who is there?"

answered Ivanoushka.

"Well, my dear son, I will reward thee for thine obedience," said the father.

Lo! the cocks crowed and the old man dropped into the grave. The Simpleton arrived home and went to the warm stove.

"What happened?" asked the brothers.

"Nothing," he answered. "I slept the whole night and am hungry now."

The second night it was Pakhom's turn to go to his father's grave. He thought it over and said to the Simpleton:

"To-morrow is a busy day with me. Go in my place to our father's grave."

"All right," answered Ivanoushka. He took along with him a piece of fish pie, went to the grave and slept. Midnight approached, the wind roared, crows came flying, the grave opened and the old man came out.aion gold,

"Who is there?" he asked.

"I," answered his son the Simpleton.

"Well, my beloved son, I will not forget thine obedience," said the old man.

The cocks crowed and the old man dropped into his grave. Ivanoushka the Simpleton came home, went to sleep on the warm stove, and in the morning his brothers asked:

"What happened?"

"Nothing," answered Ivanoushka.

On the third night the brothers said to Ivan the Simpleton:

"It is thy turn to go to the grave of our father. The father's will should be done."

"All right," answered Ivanoushka. He took some cookies, put on his sheepskin, and arrived at the grave.
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